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admin // August 28, 2015 at 9:22 am //
There was a report in Ukraine press that someone who worked at the airport in Dnipropetrovsk informed the separatists about military aircraft movements. I will try to find that report which was in a newspaper. I believe the person worked for an airline.- A spy accuses the separatists and double-spy points to Ukraine in the first place. A spy easily leads to the accusation of committing an intentional and witting assault on civilians by the separatists. A double spy places the motive to shoot down a civilian airliner wittingly and intentionally by Ukraine or some Ukrainian renegade faction.
Monday, May 2, 2022:
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'Day 68 of the Russian invasion in Ukraine. Zelenski is happy with the successful evacuation of citizens from the heavily fought Azovstal factory in the port city of Ukrainian city of Marioepol. "I hope that all necessary conditions will be met on Monday to continue to evacuate people from Marioepol." In the meantime, Ukrainian security authorities state that they have discovered a gang of Russian agents with a plan that has many similarities with the downing of the MH17 of Malaysia Airlines on July 17, 2014 in Eastern Ukraine.'
Ukraine: Russian spies wanted to implement 'MH17 plan'
Ukrainian security authorities say they have discovered a gang of Russian agents. "The comrades had to shoot a passenger plane over Russia or Belarus and then say that Ukraine was responsible," reports a consultant from President Volodimir Zelenski on Sunday evening at the Ukrainian news agency Urkinnin. Aerial weather missiles from Ukrainian stocks would be used for this.
(BD: Russian passengers intended)
The plan shows many similarities with the downing of the MH17 of Malaysia Airlines on July 17, 2014 in Eastern Ukraine, where an armed battle was also going on at that time. The aircraft was en route from Schiphol to the Malaysian capital Kuala Lumpur. All 298 passengers died in the disaster. Among them were many Dutch people. According to the Dutch Public Prosecution Service, pro-Russian separatists have brought down the aircraft with a BUK rocket.
One of the unmasked spies would even have worked in the General Staff of the Ukrainian army, according to the presidential adviser. He did not announce how many members the group would consist of.
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Response BD:
- Indeed, the striking similarity with the downing of the MH17 is that again a Ukrainian warhead would be used, such as earlier ignorantly established by DSB (Dutch Safety Board).
- But for confirmation of the origin of missile and warhead, the Russian manufacturer Almaz-Antey was needed. And that means that stealing Ukrainian weaponry would come down to a stupid and especially superfluous action, because after the crash, A-A had to check the identity of the weaponry, while possibly being part of the 'Russian conspiracy'. And by the way, the Ukrainian military faction has already been proven, but a Russian not yet. The conclusion is therefore that this so-called 'Russian gang' conspiracy must be a false flag.
- What could not be implanted from the assault on the MH17 is understandably to provoke a war between Russia and NATO. But the 'Russian gang' tried to evoke a war between Russia and Ukraine.
- And look, they seem to have inverted our double spy theory to the contrary:
"The comrades had to shoot a passenger plane over Russia or Belarus and then say that Ukraine was responsible".In other words:"The Russian Army faction had to shoot a passenger plane over Russia and then say that Ukraine was responsible".Here is the identity:"The Ukrainian Army faction had to shoot a passenger plane over Ukraine and then say that Russia was responsible".
- 'One of the unmasked spies would even have worked in the General Staff of the Ukrainian army'. Here we see clearly that such scenarios between Russia and Ukraine are not quite possible without mutual spies, because these hostile cultures are very intertwined and speak each other's language.
- This Russian superspy could have been situated in Kiev or on Dnepropetrovsk. And this spy as spill in their scenario looks a bit like our double spy, forced to work for Ukraine at gunpoint in the rebound. So, we jump from superspy to double spy.
- I mean to say how intrinsic both scenarios are intertwined. But the plot from the Ukrainian Security Authorities has been lied as shown above. And ours is just a theory that makes a rather strange connection with this false flag scenario.
- We think that these scenarios are two sides of the same medal and must have a common basis, because this can not be coincidental. There must be an underlying cause, the truth.
- So, what will be the real reason of this press release? Ukraine is full of Russian spies. In this corrupted country - just like Russia - there are no simple explanations without spies for the downing of the MH17. And here it seems as if they are making the flight forward and invert our interpretation of the truth. But it's also possible that they even don't know our double spy scenario and so accidentally revealed the truth about the downing of MH17.
Is this an unintended confession of Ukraine?
'Ukrainian security authorities say they have discovered a gang of Russian agents. "The comrades had to shoot a passenger plane over Russia or Belarus and then say that Ukraine was responsible," reports a consultant from President Volodimir Zelenski on Sunday evening at the Ukrainian news agency Urkinnin. Aerial weather missiles from Ukrainian stocks would be used for this.'
"The comrades had to shoot a passenger plane over Russia or Belarus and then say that Ukraine was responsible".
In other words:
"The Russian Army faction had to shoot a passenger plane over Russia and then say that Ukraine was responsible".
Here is the identity:
"The Ukrainian Army faction had to shoot a passenger plane over Ukraine and then say that Russia was responsible".
Consideration:
I bet they couldn't come up with this if they didn't realize what this identity really meant:
There are several scenarios:
In our scenario the faction of the Ukrainian army had a double spy on the Ukrainian air base Dnepropetrovsk, who had the confidence of the crew of the alleged BUK near Snizhne. And it has been this double agent who instructed the crew of the BUK to shoot the MH17, saying that this was an ascending Antonov (AN-26) from Dnepropetrovsk on its way to the Donbas to deliver supplies for the Ukrainian Army:
Some other military planes are also possible:
- The army leadership knew the separatists did not use Flightradar for they were not interested in the upper atmosphere with civil aircraft above 9.7 km. And after the 9.7 km measure of 14 July, separatists still made no use of Flightradar. Some high flying transport IL-76, SU-27 and MIG-29 were no immediate danger and had their ADS-B-transponder off.
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Above is written what the identity really means and I bet the consultant from Zelenski must have known this or is misinformed about what he was telling the press.
By quoting the downing of the MH17 in this comparison, Ukraine can not exclude a double spy, unless other scenarios are presented as common radio traffic for all BUKS operating in Ukraine - also the alleged Russian BUK - by which for this message about the ascending AN-26, no confidant of the separatists was needed.
But both and probably more scenarios assume intentional guilt of Ukraine. Then we have to conclude that they do not expect the public to have any knowledge of Ukraine's own possible role as perpetrator, because otherwise they would not have stated this identity so blunt.
In conclusion, 'Ukrainian Security Authorities' seem to make the flight forward to try to turn the Ukrainian Military Faction (proven) into its hypothetical Russian counterpart.
As mentioned, logic is missing in this plot because A-A as the Russian manufacturer of missile and warhead must determine the identity of the wreckage. And there is also no guarantee that such wreckage will be ever found and Putin explains the war on Ukraine anyway. What the 'Ukrainian security authorities' achieved with this desperate step is that they may have concealed their own role in downing the MH17.
